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الكاتب:  القلب الصادق [ السبت ديسمبر 20, 2008 12:47 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

كل زميل أو زميلة بحاجة لمساعدة بهالمادة أو مواضيعها أنا موجود للرد على كل الاستفسارات
مع تمنياتي بالنجاح و التوفيق للجميع *1

الكاتب:  Odysseus [ السبت ديسمبر 20, 2008 10:47 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق,

شكرا سلفا لجهودك . . الله يعطيك ألف عافية . . أكيد ممكن كتير زملاء يستفادوا منك اذا عندون أي سؤال . . *ورود *ورود

الكاتب:  لجين [ الأحد ديسمبر 21, 2008 11:28 am ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق,
شكرا كتير قلك ماقصرت بعرضك للمساعدة تسلم :oops:
في شغلة محيرتني الدكتور الياس نزل نوطة هالقد قدا للالياذة معقول يخطر على بالو يجبلنا شي منها؟ بس مافيها شي مهم حسيت :mrgreen:
وكمان شو رأيك انت علاء؟
:(

الكاتب:  القلب الصادق [ الأحد ديسمبر 21, 2008 12:22 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

لكل الزملاء و الزميلات بحب طمنون انو المادة كتير سهلة و الدكتور الياس معروف باسلوبه وهوي التركيز على المواضيع و بالأخص المواضيع البارزة بهالمادة و من جهتي بحب نوه على التركيز على شخصيتين ( أوديب و أخيليس ) و بالنسبة للمواضيع في عندي كم موضوع مهم
Trojan War - The Fall of Troy - The Anger of Achilles - The Battle of the Gods - The Homeric Question - The Theme of Revenge - The Character of Oedipus - The Chorus - Oedipus' Blindness - Oedipus as the Victim of Fate - Classic Tragic Hero
هي أهم كل النقاط بهالمادة و انشالله يلي بيركز عليهم بضمن انو يطالع هالمادة و بمعدل عالي انشالله ........
*1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1

الكاتب:  لجين [ الجمعة ديسمبر 26, 2008 2:04 am ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق,
تسلم والله يطمن بالك يارب ان شا الله يكون متل ماعم تقول لانو حاسة اني رح احمل هي المادة اول مرة بتلبك بكتابة مواضيعها وخاصة الالياذة :cry:
بس ان شا الله خير
*1

الكاتب:  Brian [ الجمعة ديسمبر 26, 2008 4:32 am ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق

شكرا كتير الك و بتمنى اذا متوفرين عند هالمواضيع تنزلون هون يعني منستفاد كلنا :

1- The theme of war as a series of family tragedy
2- The codes of chivalry
3- Homer's anti-war attitude in the epic

وشكرا لجهودك *1

الكاتب:  القلب الصادق [ الجمعة ديسمبر 26, 2008 4:12 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

الى لجين و Brian و كل طلاب هالدفعة هي بعض مواضيع الاليادة *1
 
The Anger of Achilles

The fatal anger of Achilles brought countless losses on the Greeks and sent many noble souls to Hades before their time. His anger started after a quarrel between him and Agamemnon. Nine years after the war begins, God Apollo is angry because Agamemnon will not return for a ransom Chryseis, the daughter of one of his priests, captured by Agamemnon as a war prize. Apollo sends a plague upon the Greeks camp, causing the death of many soldiers, the thing which forces Agamemnon to send Chryseis back to her father and take Achilles' prize, Briseis, as a compensation, sparking Achilles great rage, Achilles, very angry withdraws from the battle with his people and prays to his mothers, Thetis, to ask Zeus to punish the Greeks and help the Trojans to win a battle so that the Greeks recognize his worth. At Thetis request, Zeus starts helping the Trojans by giving them courage and making them win some battles. The Greeks, at last, recognize the worth of Achilles, so Agamemnon offers to restore him Briseis besides many other gifts. He still refuses to join the army, so the fight becomes worse. When his dearest friend Patroclus is killed by Hector, he is filled with anger and rejoins the army, kills Hector and drags his body on the earth as a revenge to his friend Patroclus.
 
The Battle of the Gods
(Very Important)
In The Iliad, there are many gods of human attributes who devote their time to feast and marriage. They take sides in the Trojan war between the Greeks and the Trojans. In Homer's Iliad, the essence of god is not of ethical but power.
Hera, Queen of the gods and Zeus's wife, Hera is a headstrong woman. She often goes behind Zeus's back in matters on which they disagree, working with Athena to crush the Trojans, whom she passionately hates. Athena the goddess of wisdom, like Hera Athena passionately hates the Trojans and often gives the Achaeans valuable aid. Thetis, a sea-nymph and the devoted mother of Achilles, gets Zeus to help the Trojans and punish the Achaeans at the request of her angry son. When Achilles finally rejoins the battle, she asks Hephaestus to design him a new suit of armor. Poseidon, The brother of Zeus and god of the sea, holds a long standing hatred against the Trojans because they never paid him for helping them to build their city. He therefore supports the Achaeans in the war. Hephaestus, god of fire, doesn't make clear his sympathies in the mortals' struggle, he helps the Achaeans by making a new suit of armor for Achilles and by rescuing Achilles during his fight with a river god.
Zeus, king of the gods claims neutrality in the mortals' conflict and often tries to keep the other gods from participating in it. However, he throws his weight behind the Trojan side for much of the battle after Achilles' mother, Thetis, asks him to do so. Apollo, a son of Zeus and god of the arts and archery, supports the Trojans and often intervenes in the war on their behalf. Aphrodite, goddess of love and daughter of Zeus, supports Paris and the Trojans throughout the war, though she proves somewhat ineffectual in battle. Artemis, goddess of the hunt, daughter of Zeus, supports the Trojans in the war. Ares, god of war generally supports the Trojans in the war.
 
( important) The Homeric Question

Nothing is known for certain about the real authorship of The Iliad or about the date and the place of composition. Indeed all the circumstances surrounding the composition and the early emergence of the Homeric poems are matter of guess. The Iliad, and The Odyssey are the oldest surviving texts in Greek literature. In the antiquity, it was universally accepted that The Iliad and The Odyssey were written by Homer, with the exception of some later Greek critics at Alexandria who believed that another author wrote The Odyssey. At the time of the French revolution, the Homeric question was raised again. Some scholars said that The Iliad and The Odyssey are not related to Homer, nothing the time between Homer and the Trojan war and observing a contradiction in the stories, differences in customs, style, religion and language in various parts of the two epics. These scholars argued variously that The Iliad and The Odyssey were written by different authors because the poems consisted of earlier independent poems gathered and unified by a later poet or by a commission of scholars or that each poem had an original author alone. Modern linguistic study and literary criticism have convinced most scholars that The Iliad and The Odyssey are works of a single skillful genius, who employed a traditional style, language and meter, and borrowed from a common pool of traditional material. Essentially the civilization presented, the style, plot construction and character treatment show the unity of the work. Everything fits into the theory of a single Homer. The evidence for the unity of The Iliad and The Odyssey is so strong that we should be compelled to accept a single Homer even if ancient Greece had believed in many.
 
Trojan War

Legends of the Trojan War trace its origin to a golden apple, inscribed " for the fairest ". The award of the apple to Aphrodite, goddess of love, by Paris, son of king Priam of Troy, secured for Paris the love of the beautiful Helen of Troy, wife of Menelaus, the king of Sparta. Helen went with Paris to Troy. An expedition to avenge the injury to Menelaus was placed under the command of Agamemnon, king of Mycenae. Agamemnon's force included many famous Greek heroes, the most noted of whom were Achilles, Patroclus, the two Ajaxes, Teucer, Nestor, Odysseus, and Diomedes.
After the Trojans refused to restore Helen to Menelaus, the Greek warriors proceeded to Troy in 1000 ships. The siege lasted ten years, the first nine of which were uneventful. In the tenth year, Achilles withdrew from battle because of his anger with Agamemnon; Achilles' action furnished Homer with the theme of The Iliad. To avenge the death of his friend Patroclus, Achilles returned to battle and killed Hector, the principal Trojan warrior. Later, Achilles was killed at the hands of Paris.
The city of Troy was captured at last by treachery. A force of Greek warriors entered to the city by hiding in the interior of a large wooden horse. Subsequently the Greeks robbed and burned the city. Only a few Trojans escaped, the most famous being Aeneas, who led the other survivors to what is present-day Italy; the story is told by Virgil in The Aeneid.
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الكاتب:  Odysseus [ الجمعة ديسمبر 26, 2008 5:44 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق,

شكرا كتير على جهودك . . والله انت ما في منك . . الله يعطيك العافية .. بس أنا عندي سؤال الك . . بالنسبة للملك اوديب . . انت شو رأيك الخاص بأوديب . . الحق عليه ولا على (الآلهة) حسب معتقداتون ؟ ؟؟

لجين,
اقتباس:


شكرا كتير قلك ماقصرت بعرضك للمساعدة تسلم
في شغلة محيرتني الدكتور الياس نزل نوطة هالقد قدا للالياذة معقول يخطر على بالو يجبلنا شي منها؟ بس مافيها شي مهم حسيت
وكمان شو رأيك انت علاء؟
أول شي أن آسف تأخرت بالرد . . بس والله ضغط دراسة . . :evil:

بالنسبة لهاد الموضوع فأنا اضطلعت على النوطة و ما شفت فيها أي شي ممكن يفيدنا بالمواضيع . . طبعا باستثناء تلخيص كل فصل و هادا الشي كان ينقلنا اياه الدكتور خلال السنة . . النوطة مهمة كتير كتير و فيها معلومات أنا أول مرة بسمعها . . و منشأ كلمة الإليادة و لفظا و ما الى ذلك . . بس هيدول بنقراهن "ثقافة عامة" :mrgreen: و ما ممكن نستفيد منن بمواضيعنا .. . طبعا أنا هاد رأي . . و ممكن انتي تشوفي غير هالشي هاد . . موفقة ان شاء الله . . *ورود

الكاتب:  لجين [ السبت ديسمبر 27, 2008 11:44 am ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

القلب الصادق,
يسلمو ايديك *plz بس الدكتور الياس حدد غير هالمواضيع *ممم
بس المهم انو مواضيعك كتير مفيدة وعجبتني كتر خيرك وشكرا الك
*ورود


Odysseus,
مو مشكلة عادي ^^ شكرا الك جد ريحتني وأنا رأي من رأيك ماحسيت فيها شي خطير :mrgreen:
*1

الكاتب:  القلب الصادق [ السبت ديسمبر 27, 2008 12:15 pm ]
عنوان المشاركة:  الأدب الكلاسيكي

Odysseus
اقتباس:
شكرا كتير على جهودك . . والله انت ما في منك . . الله يعطيك العافية .. بس أنا عندي سؤال الك . . بالنسبة للملك اوديب . . انت شو رأيك الخاص بأوديب . . الحق عليه ولا على (الآلهة) حسب معتقداتون ؟ ؟؟

أول شي هادا واجبي فلا شكر على واجب و تاني شي بالنسبة لسؤالك فأنا من رأي انو أوديب هوي مجرد انسان تلاعب به القدر و بالتالي لا يقع اللوم عليه... وشكرا لتواصلك *1

لجين ,

كمان لا شكر على واجب... وبتمنى الك النجاح بموادك وعلامات عالية انشالله *1

صورة

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